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Post by timmy84 on Aug 16, 2006 19:15:21 GMT -5
When one think of about what it took for Motown to develop the sound they did, we often go back to the period when a lot of R&B acts were just coming out with stuff, but which Motown song (or songs) you think played a development in the growth of the label, the musicians and the artists?
For me, these songs:
Jackie Wilson's "Lonely Teardrops"
Ray Charles' "What'd I Say?"
The Isley Brothers' "Shout"
These are the songs that played in the development and much interestingly all these legendary songs I named became big hits in 1959 - the year Motown was formed. Had it not been for these songs and for the artists that signed to be influenced by each of these acts would we even be here talking about Motown? Sure the obvious reason why anyone would pick Jackie is because Berry wrote and produce him and everything but "What'd I Say" played a role in "Money" and the Isleys' "Shout" influenced songs like "Do You Love Me?" and "Shop Around" (the vocal arrangements except for the HOOOO, lol).
Just saying. You agree with me or you think other non-Motown songs not listed has as much to do with the Motown sound as those songs?
How odd the group that influenced the early sounds of the Miracles and the Temptations (the Isleys) ended up signing with the label in '66, huh? LOL
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Post by Emerald City on Aug 16, 2006 20:08:10 GMT -5
Great topic ... at this point I will say all of the Gordy compositions for Jackie for obvious reasons...
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Post by fantagurl on Aug 16, 2006 20:23:19 GMT -5
When one think of about what it took for Motown to develop the sound they did, we often go back to the period when a lot of R&B acts were just coming out with stuff, but which Motown song (or songs) you think played a development in the growth of the label, the musicians and the artists? For me, these songs: Jackie Wilson's "Lonely Teardrops" Ray Charles' "What'd I Say?" The Isley Brothers' "Shout" These are the songs that played in the development and much interestingly all these legendary songs I named became big hits in 1959 - the year Motown was formed. Had it not been for these songs and for the artists that signed to be influenced by each of these acts would we even be here talking about Motown? Sure the obvious reason why anyone would pick Jackie is because Berry wrote and produce him and everything but "What'd I Say" played a role in "Money" and the Isleys' "Shout" influenced songs like "Do You Love Me?" and "Shop Around" (the vocal arrangements except for the HOOOO, lol). Just saying. You agree with me or you think other non-Motown songs not listed has as much to do with the Motown sound as those songs? How odd the group that influenced the early sounds of the Miracles and the Temptations (the Isleys) ended up signing with the label in '66, huh? LOL I agree with ya Timmy.Lots of songs and artists non-Motown paved a way for the Motown Sound.The songs that you listed had a definite impact on Motown. This is a great topic of conversation.You Go Boy!!!  |
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Post by timmy84 on Aug 16, 2006 21:53:57 GMT -5
Thanks and I agree with you RoadRunner that Jackie's records with BG basically did form the Motown tree but there were other ingredients too which I'd added in the Ray Charles and Isley Brothers songs.  |
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Post by Motown Honey on Aug 18, 2006 3:00:31 GMT -5
Sam Cook(e)  "You Send Me" "Cupid" "Twistin' the Night Away" "Only Sixteen" And on and on ... |
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Post by timmy84 on Aug 18, 2006 10:11:27 GMT -5
Oh yeah... brotha Sam. He formed a record label at the same time as Berry's too: SAR Records. :cheezy: The man was an all-around class act. :bow: "Bring It On Home to Me" played an impact on the Miracles' "You Really Got a Hold on Me". He also influenced Marvin to a huge degree. |
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Post by Diamond Girl on Aug 19, 2006 15:42:01 GMT -5
I'll go The Chantels "Maybe" and the Shirelles "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow" |
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Post by Diamond Girl on Aug 19, 2006 16:22:52 GMT -5
And the Exciters "Tell Him"
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Post by timmy84 on Aug 19, 2006 19:24:02 GMT -5
GOOD ONES!!! :thumbsup:
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Post by antceleb12 on Aug 19, 2006 19:36:36 GMT -5
This one may seem odd, but
"Strange Fruit" - Billie Holiday
Aside from the obvious fact that Motown produced "Lady Sings the Blues", I believe "Strange Fruit" pathed a MUCH clearer pathway for anyone not Caucasian to succeed in the music world. Even though Holiday was a different genre and different time nearly, her bravery with this song made it clear that not just white people had feelings and determination to make a point.
In fact, Holiday was one of Diane Ross's idols.
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Post by Emerald City on Aug 20, 2006 10:19:05 GMT -5
Yeah ((Cleo)) those ones really set off the Marvellettes ... and ((Ant)) I never thought of that before |
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Post by timmy84 on Aug 20, 2006 14:40:04 GMT -5
I don't know about that, ant...  I think black rock & roll play a bigger impact on Motown than jazz but that's just me... :scratchhead: How about Little Richard and Chuck Berry's '50s classics. It's often said the riff in "Wonderful One" was taken from Chuck's "Memphis, Tennessee" song. |
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Post by Emerald City on Aug 20, 2006 21:15:37 GMT -5
There is a point in there ((Quick)) ... for example remember alot of Kim Weston's early material was very Jazz/Blues inspired ...
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Post by timmy84 on Aug 21, 2006 10:35:07 GMT -5
There is a point in there ((Quick)) ... for example remember alot of Kim Weston's early material was very Jazz/Blues inspired ... Ohhh yeah... lol The Four Tops began in jazz and Marvin was a fan of Billy Eckstine and 'em... |
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Post by fantagurl on Aug 21, 2006 20:48:28 GMT -5
I came up with Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers`....
Why Do Fools Fall In Love and The ABC`S Of Love
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